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Thoughts on Spyro and Shipping

Journal Entry: Wed Oct 29, 2014, 11:50 PM


WARNING: THE FOLLOWING OPINIONS ARE MY OPINIONS, AND MINE ALONE. If you don't like mine, that's fine! But be civil and mature about it. No name calling, no flames, none of that, or you will be blocked. This is just a sharing of my personal thoughts anyway.


Okay. So one of the predominant things in the Spyro fandom is shipping. Whether it's Spyro the Dragon, The Legend of Spyro, or Skylanders, we all ship Spyro with SOMEONE.

I personally was really into this in the beginning. In fact, I was SO into it, I made up my own OC and fanfiction for the purposes of shipping said OC with Spyro. YEP that's right: I made a Mary Sue, to ship with Spyro.

We've all done it in other fandoms at least once. The idea/story was abandoned years ago, almost ten years ago, and I will not be doing that sort of thing ever again. I've learned as a writer, artist, and generally as a creative mind how to go about storytelling, and I won't do any sort of Mary-Sue-shameless-self-insert-thing ever again.

So now that I've told you guys my dirty little secret from years ago....let's talk about more recent ones. Ones that will carry over into my current storylines (The Legend of Spyro/Skylanders) for a long time.

Now what IS shipping? To me, shipping is defined as such: two or more fictional characters you support and write/draw as if they are in an romantic, sexual or platonic relationship. A romantic ship is basically a romantic relationship between two (or more) characters. A sexual ship is just like it sounds: two or more characters in a sexual relationship. A platonic ship is basically two or more characters who are close/best friends.

Here's the long and short of it: I do ship Cynder and Spyro in my The Legend of Spyro fanfiction/story. But only up to a certain point. In Skylanders, no. I don't ship Spyro and Cynder together. But I'm not about to get into who I ship Skylander Cynder with. This is more about my Legend of Spyro romantic shipping.

Basically, the way my story plays out is like this.

POSSIBLE GAME SPOILERS, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

Cynder and Spyro are in their mid-teens by Dawn of the Dragon. It is established by the end of the game that Cynder loves Spyro. (She tells Spyro "I love you.") They also nuzzle in one scene when Cynder is trying to comfort a distraught Spyro after they've witnessed Ignitus 'dying.' (He comes back as The Chronicler.) So as evidenced by the game, Cynder appears to have romantic feelings for Spyro, and is in love with him. (Notice the emphasis on this, I'll come back to it later.)

For my story purposes, Spyro and Cynder DO end up getting together. They don't get together immediately, however. They're young and there's a world to rebuild after all. Not only that, but I personally feel like they didn't get a chance to really get to know each other over the years that they've been in each other's company. I definitely think they formed a battlefield bond, as in they became close after saving one another from certain death so often. Not only that, Cynder distanced herself from Spyro during the second game. Spyro finds out about Cynder's past, but her past isn't her identity. So for a few years, in my story, the two get to know each other. Spyro falls in love with Cynder over the years, and when they become adults, the two become mates.

Unfortunately this is where things get tricky.

Some of the theories I've always liked are the ones where Spyro is sterile, due to the fact that he has so much magic inside of him. It's just too much for one body to handle, and it affects him physically. Other effects are these: faster aging, magical instability, and possible mental instability. In my story, the Purple Dragon is born only when really needed. When he or she becomes 'fully realized,' or fulfills their purpose, their body begins to deteriorate. The gods are literally trying to take back the magic they let the mortal world borrow. They also age faster so that they can reach physical maturity faster, and in that way they can be better equipped for fighting and surviving. Spyro hit that first peak at the beginning of Dawn of the Dragon, but by the time he was an adult a few years later, he'd tripled in physical size.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the Purple Dragon rule. Malefor is the most obvious, and I'll explain why: he never realized his purpose, and he got into dark magic. SO now that we've gotten some of my Purple Dragon headcanons out of the way, let's get back into shipping.

After becoming mates and finding out Spyro can't have kids, Cynder just assumes she can't either. Dark magic probably tainted her body, right? So physically, they can't have an egg. However, they hope that through their emotional and mental bond, they can have a 'spirit child.' Basically the magic in two dragons' bodies can fuse together and physically create an egg out of nothing. (Example: my character Brissa, Spyro's mom, is a spirit child between two female dragons.) But the bond has to be VERY strong.

One day, the two wake up, and there's an egg between them. It wasn't there the night before, so they assume that they've had a spirit child.

The egg is not theirs, but they never know that. It IS however, a relative of Cynder's, as the hatchling is a Kuros. I won't say who the parents are but the story will eventually be written. ;) The two raise the child as their son, and that son is Calden.

When Calden is reaching his teens, Dragonkind are attacked by what are known as 'wyrms.' Wyrms are not a naturally occurring species, and appear suddenly in the thousands. Much like wyverns in that they have two hind legs and wings that serve as forelimbs, the wyrms' main diet consists of meat, but their favorite: dragon meat. Wyrms operate on a hive mind mentality, and their sole purpose seems to be to eat and wipe out dragon kind. The wyrms' poison is not as potent against adults as it is against younger dragons, but given enough, an adult dragon can die very quickly when pitted up against multiple wyrms.

So it is with Spyro. Or so one would think. Spyro and Cynder take it upon themselves to fight off the infestation in Warfang, and are close to succeeding when Spyro is ambushed. The wyrms go for his wings, and with the venom altering his perception of reality, Spyro tears off his own wings.

I'll say that again in bold. Spyro hallucinates due to being bitten so many times by venomous creatures, and because most of the venom is in his wings, he tears them off.

Before you all jump down my throat, know that I don't hate Spyro as a character. Spyro has been one of my favorites for YEARS. However, I think that all characters, even our favorites, have to suffer sometimes. And I've yet to see anyone put Spyro through such physical turmoil, so...there you go!

This brings us back to the shipping state of things. Due to the increased stress, Spyro's mind begins to slip. He begins to age much faster. By the time Calden is a teen, and Spyro should be an adult in his prime, Spyro is physically an ancient dragon. His mind is not unlike someone with alzheimers, and his memories begin to get either replaced or confused. He does still know Calden is his son, and Cynder is his beloved mate.

But what about Cynder?

Over the years, Cynder has taken up the mantle of seeing to the political and commercial state of affairs for Dragonkind in Warfang. Not only that, she becomes a figurehead of leadership for the community, and keeps close tabs on all families, clans, etc. She also holds daily town meetings with The Guardians, and with them solves disputes, gives relief to the poor or infirm, and generally helps out loads with the state of things for those in Warfang. She is the quiet symbol of Dragonkind behind Spyro, who is revered and almost worshipped as the Hero of Dragonkind. Spyro took part in Cynder's activities for a time, but for the most part he helps train the Knights of Warfang, and the hatchlings in the Temple.

Their responsibilities begin to distance them somewhat. They still care for each other, but after Spyro's incident and Grounding (meaning, when he lost his wings and lost his ability to fly), things got strange. Spyro became angry more often, due to his confusion and inability to fly, and the two began to notice Calden developing features neither one of them have. Too many for them to reasonably believe he's their spirit child, as usually a spirit child is a perfect blend between the two parents. This further pushes them apart.

Cynder does, however, always love Spyro. But she is no longer in love with Spyro, at a certain point. There's no real time when she just realizes that, it just...happens over time. He was her first great love, and they raised a son together, but she outgrows being in love with him. This might seem cruel, given the fact that Spyro essentially loses his mind to old age and his traumatic experiences, but Cynder does stay loyal to him.


So there's my whole spiel about Spyro and Cynder shipping, in my story anyway.

I'd like to point out that I don't care who you personally ship. Whoever you ship is fine by me! This is just how I ship Spyro and Cynder in my fictional story. Let me know what you guys think! :D

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Jela ["Bright One," "Shining One" -- Old Greek]
*Role in Novel: N/A (fan character)
*Close Kin:
    +Father: Themba
    +Mother: Zanele
    +Siblings: Daudi (full brother), Sibusiso (half brother)
    +Mate(s): Ekundayo
    +Offspring: Tariro
*Accoutrements:
    +Braided Teeth/Shell Charm (neck)
    +Purple feathers (neck fur)
    +Reed armor (front legs) [Not Pictured]
    +Supply gourds (around neck, 2 - water and dried meat) [Not Pictured]
*Personality:
    +Stubborn
    +Honest
    +Energetic
    +Hot-headed
    +Wistful
    +Proud
    +Mischievous

Ekundayo ["Sorrow Becomes Joy," -- Yoruba]
*Role in Novel: N/A (fan character)
*Close Kin:
    +Father: Masozi
    +Mother: Khethiwe
    +Siblings: Mudiwa (full brother), Adisa (full sister), Udo (full sister), Sibusiso (half brother)
    +Mate(s): Jela
    +Offspring: Tariro
*Accoutrements:
    +Bark Armor (back, front legs) [Not Pictured]
*Personality:
    +Quiet
    +Honest
    +Calm
    +Introspective
    +Highly intelligent
    +Sarcastic
    +Courageous
---

A quiet calm lay thick over the pride as a Lyoness roused herself from her slumber. Carefully, she picked her way around and over her pride members and to the entrance of their den, staring out at the open plains before her. The sun had yet to rise, and her breath came out in clouds of steam. With utmost care not to make too much noise, she checked her gourds before securing them around her neck, refilling her water gourd under the steady, clean trickle that gave the pride a natural pool to drink from inside.

She became aware of an increasing source of warmth to her left, and with a quiet hum in her throat, she leaned against the golden shoulder there. The much larger Lyon leaned down and pressed a kiss to her brow as he refilled his own gourd, and they left the den in amicable silence.

It had been like this for many years now. Jela was used to rising before the dawn to go on patrol, and since they were young, Ekundayo came with her. They strolled side by side, as always, in silence. They did not need to fill it with words, idle chatter about the weather or the state of the herds. Conversation went between them with gestures, a flick of an ear, a tail brushing the other's ankle, running their sides along the other's flank.

"Your brother's visitor is pregnant," Ekundayo said, breaking their silence once they'd stopped to break the night's fast.

"That obvious, hn?" Jela said, wiping water off her whiskers. "I think Father's in denial."

"Hm."

"Aunt Nuha will have words with him if that persists."

"As she should. Daudi wants nothing to do with leading the pride," her companion said, raising a brow at her. His blue eyes hid his deepest thoughts, but Jela could see the confidence he had in that statement of fact.

"No," Jela said with a sigh. She stretched out on her side in the grass, and Ekundayo flopped down parallel to her. His toes brush against hers and she smiled, shutting her eyes in contentment. "Though I do wish he'd reconsider. Not that I'll ever give up leading the pride, but it'll be hard when Father and Aunt Nuha are gone."

"That will be a long time yet," her mate said, with the same certainty he had about anything he said aloud. When her mate spoke, it was carefully thought out, and he only spoke the truth as he saw it. He yawned and covered his face with a huge paw, clearly still sleepy from the night before. "By that time, your daughter will be looking for a mate."

"My daughter?" Jela said, sitting up with a bemused grin. She laughed when Ekundayo grunted his confirmation, and swatted him playfully with her paw. "She's our kid, Eku'."

"Not until she gets through this moody spell," the large, golden male said with a groan as he sat up. He gave her a look as he continued, "Until then, Tariro is your burden to bear once more. If she is so inclined to listen to her father's wisdom and not call it 'boring tripe,' then I will gladly accept her company. Though I suspect she'll only be willing if she gets something out of it."

"I'll talk to her," Jela said, chuckling. "But is there any way I can talk you into sharing the workload with me again, sweetness? Raising a cub is such a trying affair...."

"Afraid not, my dear," Ekundayo sighed. "And don't think your tricks will work on me. I shan't be talked out of passing ownership of the cub fully to you." He went silent when Jela gave him that look, and she felt his muscles go rigid with awareness when she rubbed her full body against him, nosing the underside of his chin and burrowing her face deep into his mane over his chest. She repeated the embrace until she and her mate began to purr, and he sighed in defeat. She tweaked his nose with a cheeky grin before gathering her gourds again, and Ekundayo huffed.

"Glad you could see reason," she said over one shoulder, and trotted away, leaving him until he was fit to walk again.
----

YAY MORE LOINS. (Quite literally in Ekundayo's case.)

Ekundayo is actually another one of my old characters revamped to fit into the Iron Lyons fanart universe. He's been with Jela since then, too! I wanna say since '08 or '09? Not too sure.

Tariro, Sibusiso and Khethiwe are probably gonna be up next! :D


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Thoughts on Spyro and Shipping

Journal Entry: Wed Oct 29, 2014, 11:50 PM


WARNING: THE FOLLOWING OPINIONS ARE MY OPINIONS, AND MINE ALONE. If you don't like mine, that's fine! But be civil and mature about it. No name calling, no flames, none of that, or you will be blocked. This is just a sharing of my personal thoughts anyway.


Okay. So one of the predominant things in the Spyro fandom is shipping. Whether it's Spyro the Dragon, The Legend of Spyro, or Skylanders, we all ship Spyro with SOMEONE.

I personally was really into this in the beginning. In fact, I was SO into it, I made up my own OC and fanfiction for the purposes of shipping said OC with Spyro. YEP that's right: I made a Mary Sue, to ship with Spyro.

We've all done it in other fandoms at least once. The idea/story was abandoned years ago, almost ten years ago, and I will not be doing that sort of thing ever again. I've learned as a writer, artist, and generally as a creative mind how to go about storytelling, and I won't do any sort of Mary-Sue-shameless-self-insert-thing ever again.

So now that I've told you guys my dirty little secret from years ago....let's talk about more recent ones. Ones that will carry over into my current storylines (The Legend of Spyro/Skylanders) for a long time.

Now what IS shipping? To me, shipping is defined as such: two or more fictional characters you support and write/draw as if they are in an romantic, sexual or platonic relationship. A romantic ship is basically a romantic relationship between two (or more) characters. A sexual ship is just like it sounds: two or more characters in a sexual relationship. A platonic ship is basically two or more characters who are close/best friends.

Here's the long and short of it: I do ship Cynder and Spyro in my The Legend of Spyro fanfiction/story. But only up to a certain point. In Skylanders, no. I don't ship Spyro and Cynder together. But I'm not about to get into who I ship Skylander Cynder with. This is more about my Legend of Spyro romantic shipping.

Basically, the way my story plays out is like this.

POSSIBLE GAME SPOILERS, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

Cynder and Spyro are in their mid-teens by Dawn of the Dragon. It is established by the end of the game that Cynder loves Spyro. (She tells Spyro "I love you.") They also nuzzle in one scene when Cynder is trying to comfort a distraught Spyro after they've witnessed Ignitus 'dying.' (He comes back as The Chronicler.) So as evidenced by the game, Cynder appears to have romantic feelings for Spyro, and is in love with him. (Notice the emphasis on this, I'll come back to it later.)

For my story purposes, Spyro and Cynder DO end up getting together. They don't get together immediately, however. They're young and there's a world to rebuild after all. Not only that, but I personally feel like they didn't get a chance to really get to know each other over the years that they've been in each other's company. I definitely think they formed a battlefield bond, as in they became close after saving one another from certain death so often. Not only that, Cynder distanced herself from Spyro during the second game. Spyro finds out about Cynder's past, but her past isn't her identity. So for a few years, in my story, the two get to know each other. Spyro falls in love with Cynder over the years, and when they become adults, the two become mates.

Unfortunately this is where things get tricky.

Some of the theories I've always liked are the ones where Spyro is sterile, due to the fact that he has so much magic inside of him. It's just too much for one body to handle, and it affects him physically. Other effects are these: faster aging, magical instability, and possible mental instability. In my story, the Purple Dragon is born only when really needed. When he or she becomes 'fully realized,' or fulfills their purpose, their body begins to deteriorate. The gods are literally trying to take back the magic they let the mortal world borrow. They also age faster so that they can reach physical maturity faster, and in that way they can be better equipped for fighting and surviving. Spyro hit that first peak at the beginning of Dawn of the Dragon, but by the time he was an adult a few years later, he'd tripled in physical size.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the Purple Dragon rule. Malefor is the most obvious, and I'll explain why: he never realized his purpose, and he got into dark magic. SO now that we've gotten some of my Purple Dragon headcanons out of the way, let's get back into shipping.

After becoming mates and finding out Spyro can't have kids, Cynder just assumes she can't either. Dark magic probably tainted her body, right? So physically, they can't have an egg. However, they hope that through their emotional and mental bond, they can have a 'spirit child.' Basically the magic in two dragons' bodies can fuse together and physically create an egg out of nothing. (Example: my character Brissa, Spyro's mom, is a spirit child between two female dragons.) But the bond has to be VERY strong.

One day, the two wake up, and there's an egg between them. It wasn't there the night before, so they assume that they've had a spirit child.

The egg is not theirs, but they never know that. It IS however, a relative of Cynder's, as the hatchling is a Kuros. I won't say who the parents are but the story will eventually be written. ;) The two raise the child as their son, and that son is Calden.

When Calden is reaching his teens, Dragonkind are attacked by what are known as 'wyrms.' Wyrms are not a naturally occurring species, and appear suddenly in the thousands. Much like wyverns in that they have two hind legs and wings that serve as forelimbs, the wyrms' main diet consists of meat, but their favorite: dragon meat. Wyrms operate on a hive mind mentality, and their sole purpose seems to be to eat and wipe out dragon kind. The wyrms' poison is not as potent against adults as it is against younger dragons, but given enough, an adult dragon can die very quickly when pitted up against multiple wyrms.

So it is with Spyro. Or so one would think. Spyro and Cynder take it upon themselves to fight off the infestation in Warfang, and are close to succeeding when Spyro is ambushed. The wyrms go for his wings, and with the venom altering his perception of reality, Spyro tears off his own wings.

I'll say that again in bold. Spyro hallucinates due to being bitten so many times by venomous creatures, and because most of the venom is in his wings, he tears them off.

Before you all jump down my throat, know that I don't hate Spyro as a character. Spyro has been one of my favorites for YEARS. However, I think that all characters, even our favorites, have to suffer sometimes. And I've yet to see anyone put Spyro through such physical turmoil, so...there you go!

This brings us back to the shipping state of things. Due to the increased stress, Spyro's mind begins to slip. He begins to age much faster. By the time Calden is a teen, and Spyro should be an adult in his prime, Spyro is physically an ancient dragon. His mind is not unlike someone with alzheimers, and his memories begin to get either replaced or confused. He does still know Calden is his son, and Cynder is his beloved mate.

But what about Cynder?

Over the years, Cynder has taken up the mantle of seeing to the political and commercial state of affairs for Dragonkind in Warfang. Not only that, she becomes a figurehead of leadership for the community, and keeps close tabs on all families, clans, etc. She also holds daily town meetings with The Guardians, and with them solves disputes, gives relief to the poor or infirm, and generally helps out loads with the state of things for those in Warfang. She is the quiet symbol of Dragonkind behind Spyro, who is revered and almost worshipped as the Hero of Dragonkind. Spyro took part in Cynder's activities for a time, but for the most part he helps train the Knights of Warfang, and the hatchlings in the Temple.

Their responsibilities begin to distance them somewhat. They still care for each other, but after Spyro's incident and Grounding (meaning, when he lost his wings and lost his ability to fly), things got strange. Spyro became angry more often, due to his confusion and inability to fly, and the two began to notice Calden developing features neither one of them have. Too many for them to reasonably believe he's their spirit child, as usually a spirit child is a perfect blend between the two parents. This further pushes them apart.

Cynder does, however, always love Spyro. But she is no longer in love with Spyro, at a certain point. There's no real time when she just realizes that, it just...happens over time. He was her first great love, and they raised a son together, but she outgrows being in love with him. This might seem cruel, given the fact that Spyro essentially loses his mind to old age and his traumatic experiences, but Cynder does stay loyal to him.


So there's my whole spiel about Spyro and Cynder shipping, in my story anyway.

I'd like to point out that I don't care who you personally ship. Whoever you ship is fine by me! This is just how I ship Spyro and Cynder in my fictional story. Let me know what you guys think! :D

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Hmm... I didn't know that Markiplier could sing lol
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Those are only a few. HE HAS A LOVERLY VOICE HE DOES.
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MAH GOODNESS HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS??
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I JUST HAPPENED UPON THEM WHILE GOING THROUGH HIS VINE ONE DAY.
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I love your new username, it has a nice ring to it.
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AAAA thank you!! :D
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